In this episode of The Code to Happiness, Pastor Travis Hearn sits down with Pastor Tauren Wells for an honest, hilarious, and deeply convicting conversation about joy, burnout, balance, and what it really means to be a child of God.

They talk about:

Why “balance” is a myth and seasons are everything

The power of being with God with no agenda

How Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount is a blueprint for joy

Pastoring pressures: managing expectations + carrying people’s burdens

Real vulnerability, real freedom, real testimony

Encouragement for anyone walking through a fire: give God time

If you’re tired, overwhelmed, or chasing happiness but still coming up empty—this one is for you.

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